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Costuming - The costuming made the movie a lot more interesting because, the costumes were very cool.

Attitude - The attitude usually depended on what was happening in the movie or their lives.

Space - The dancers usually used a lot of space because, they did flips and spins which required a lot of space to do. The dancers stayed closer to the ground but when they did flips they rolled up and got high in the air.

Force - The dancers did not use a lot of force in their dance because, it was more rolling and not as sharp or jerky.

Relationships - The dancers used relation in their dance like when they were singing and they related the song with their life. There were no props used in the dance which made the movie less exciting. In the dances they used their whole body.

Time - The group timing usually came in when the dancers used their feet or two dancers did a flip or roll. There were a lot of ripples in the dance.

Styles of Dance - The styles of dance were usually very catchy and smooth.

Emotions - The movie was mostly set in an excited theme.

Clothing - The clothing really helped what emotion was trying to be set in the song/dance.

Space While Talking - The singers took up all the space by walking around and moving their arms.

Tone of Movie - The tone of the movie changed when the dancers lost hope of ever for filling their dreams.

Tone - The movie changed back again when the dancers got hope again.

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« Reply #1 on: Oct 1st, 2009, 10:03pm »
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I didn't really like the movie at all. It didn't have any plot or conflict. It didn't even have that much dancing in the there. I did not enjoy it as I thought I would.
The costuming did help show what the character was supposed to be like. You could tell what kind of emotion the character was supposed to be showing.
The character's attitude also helped a great deal on how the character was supposed to act. I could you could tell if the character was supposed to act mean, nice or sad.
I think that the characters used space wisely when they danced. I don't think that when they walked around. They stood and talked and walked and talked. They did use shapes and formations. I saw vertical lines, high and low levels, windows, and I saw staggering.
There were many types of forces. They had sharp forces, and they also had strong and weak forces. I also saw giving and recieving movements at the end of the movie.
They had partner work in the ballet. They had different genders working together. They partner danced in the middle and at the end of the movie.
There were different tempos in the dancing. When the music had a fast tempo they had sharp and fast movements and when the music had a slower tempo there were slow movements.
There were a quite a few different styles of dance. I saw ballet, hip hop, jazz, lyrical, and tap.

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I think the overall lighting of the movie seemed to be excitment. There were other lighting emotions in the movie too.
I think the characters didn't do a good job of using space while they talked. I didn't seem them moving around a lot.
I think that the tone changed when the characters lost hope in them. The tone became sad when they lost hope in them. One of the characters lost their boyfriend, one of the characters lost their dream, and one of the characters was scared of her parents whether they would accept her singing.
The tone changed back when the characters brought hope back into their life. They all didn't do want they wanted to do, but they were happy about what they had to do.
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 4th, 2009, 1:40pm »
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When we were on our way to see Fame I was really excited. I thought there would be more dancing then there was. And I had big expectations for this movie, but on fortunately I was disappointed. My expectation must have been a little too high. But this is what I thought about the Dance and Drama I did see.

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Costuming- The costuming I really think helped the emotion of the character at the time of the movie.

Character, attitude, emotion- You could tell that when the characters were happy/excited their dance was bigger and more exciting, but when the characters were depressed/sad the dance was weaker and dull.

Space- In a lot of the dances they had used high and low levels. And they used straight and curved lines too, but mostly in ballet.

Force- There was a lot of force in all of the dances. In Ballet there was soft and flowing force, but in hip-hop and jazz there was more different forces such as strong, sharp, hard, and there was more of the giving and the receiving.

Relationships- Most of the dances there was whole body movement and they used group work a lot.

Styles of Dance- There were a lot of different styles. There was Ballet, Hip-Hip, a little of lyrical, and Jazz.

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Overall Emotion- The overall emotion I think was happy/excited, but the emotions changed into a lot of many different emotions.

Costumes/Clothing- The Character's clothing/outfits really showed the characters personality.

Space while talking- Most of the time they moved around while they talked, but they also would stop and then move. They would not only walk, but move there arms and had great facial expressions.

Tone- In the middle end a lot of people were depressed since there lives are changing in a way that they don't like. So I saw that the lighting got darker because of the characters emotion.

Feelings- In the beginning the feeling was really happy and excited, but then in the middle it got more stressful, after that the character were more depressed. At the end they realized they can't always be so depressed, and it started to become more happy again.
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 4th, 2009, 1:59pm »
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Personally I did not feel this movie lived up to expectations. There wasn't really a definite plot and the characters didn't have time to develop. This was in part because there were quite a few "main" characters and there wasn't enough time in the movie for all of them. I think overall the movie was happy with some "emotional" parts. The costumes really helped in portraying each of the individual's unique style. In the beginning when the students were auditioning they walked all around during their monologues and songs. A lot of them were overly dramatic. In the beginning the students were nervous and anxious and then when they got in they were really happy and excited.

I couldn't really see a major conflict. There were a bunch of minor ones with each group of people in the movie.

When the pianist finally told her parents she wanted to sing and the mother supported her.
When Jenny got back together with that one guy
When the producer, the rapper, and that girl played their new song at the party and everyone liked it
When the blonde got accepted in the company and she broke up with that one guy
When that guy almost jumped in front of the train

Fame incorporated many styles of dance: jazz, hip hop, ballet, lyrical, tap. My favorite dance was when they were all in the lunch room, dancing on tables and all that jazz. They all put a ton of effort and force into everything they did. They were grateful for being accepted and didn't take it for granted. I also liked the dance they did at the graduation. They used fun props such as FIRE.

In the beginning, when they were at ballet class, they were working with partners and at first they weren't working well as a team, but eventually they got the hang of it.
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 4th, 2009, 8:30pm »
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When I first was told that we were going to see fame I thought it was going to have more dancing in it, but when I watched the whole thing it was a little disappointing. I thought it was very predictable! Fame was not a bad movie I just would not recommend it.
The clothing told the audience what type of dance or what they were in to.
- Malik Washburn wore overly sizes clothes to tell people I am a rapper.
- Jenny wore everyday girly clothes but not to girly to tell people I am an average girl who likes the fine arts/the theater.
I really did not think that the peoples use all that much emotion when they danced. Only when Malik Washburn did his dancing thing but I really did not see it. I saw a lot of different types of dancing:
-Ballet (poor Kevin)
-Jazz
-Hip-hop
-Jazz
-Tap(in the lunch room)
I think that the over all emotion would be yellow for happy. But it went to more than happy. There was blue (sad) red (mad/upset) pink (falling in love) blackish blue (suicidal thoughts (Kevin) and more. It did not really turn into pink, blue,red ot yellow that is jsut tghe color i would have used if it was a play not a movie. When the poepl fell in love it was really bright or peacefuly feeling! I also thought the people acting when they talked they moved back and forth on one foot to the other or walked (when the blond person was telling her boyfriend that it was time to move on)
Like Lydia said there was no BIG conflict but more of mini conflicts.
I really liked it when the person that played the piano started signing in front of her parents I thought she was going to leave the stage or something and then go home, but she did not.
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 4th, 2009, 9:15pm »
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I didn't really like the movie that much. I mean it was okay but, I've seen better. This movie was viewed by us for dance class because it was supposed to have a lot of dancing in it and it did just not as much as I thought it would. It really just had a lot of side characters with their problems and one main character with her issues. I didn't really like the ending that much since it was focused all around the singer person and there wasn't much dancing either. It wasn't a huge thing just small with a lot of singing.
I thought the costumes that the dancers wore added to their performance and it also emitted the mood of the dance. Space was used within the dancer's reach, and that was a pretty big range depending on the area that they had to dance in. Different forces were used throughout the dances in the movie, it's hard to say without being sure. There were a lot of different elements during the dances. The dances I saw in the movie was, hip hop, jazz, ballet, lyrical, and etc.
I think the overall emotion of the movie was excited though, there were some sad, mad, and happy parts but, excited took over more of the movie. The costuming that the characters wore reflected the character's personality and look out on life. Ex. dark clothing = sad, mad, depressed, creepy life.
Ex. 2 bright clothing= happy, excited, smiley, good life. Ex. 3 Gray/dull clothing = boring, weak, sick life. It goes on and on. When the people interacted in the movie there were only a few ways they utilized space, they would usually walk and talk, stand and talk, or dance and talk. If there was a conflict it wasn't very major and didn't impact the other characters.





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« Reply #6 on: Oct 5th, 2009, 09:14am »
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I agree with many of you. I was disappointed in the movie. There was not nearly as much dancing as the preview portrayed. I think it gave great insight to the audition process. I am enjoying your posts. Please continue to converse on the message boards.
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 5th, 2009, 4:48pm »
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I don't enjoy dance movies in general so my expectations were already low, but it was just a horrible movie dancing or no dancing. It took a while before the movie actually went somewhere. A fourth of the moving was spent watching the auditions and after that they just introduced themselves. It wasn't until the last 30 min. of the movie that they started to introduce the plot. When they got around to the plot it was just too dramatic and it all happened at once. The movie was okay until they started to tell the story. I blame bad acting.
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 5th, 2009, 5:06pm »
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I did not like the movie that much at all. I was expecting it to be as good as the t.v. show, but with the other movie being pretty bad as well, I didn't expect much. I thought the camera angles and slow motion made the movie visually more exciting, but I agree with Joe, the acting was pretty terrible. And to think, it was a movie about "performing."

I personally believe the movie lacked inspiration and encouragement, too. It had potential to make every single kid in the world want to be something like that, but after watching that movie, I didn't even feel inspired to go perform. It was also very anti-climactic. It seemed like it was building up to some sort of big dance and song number at the end and it hardly even had that. They kind of danced at the end and kind of sang.

The only part I liked was when they were in lunch that first day or whatever. That actually showed talent and was exciting.
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 5th, 2009, 7:54pm »
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The dance costuming was very fitting for the feel of each dance, and I felt that the costumes were very telling of the mood of each dance.

I fully agree with most of the previous comments with regard to the emotion in the film. I saw very poor representation of character, and it was lacking in the emotion and attitude for the majority of the film. I did, however, feel that when emotion was present, it was demonstrated well, especially in the dance scenes.

I noticed plenty of the elements we studied in dance, including cluster formations, sharp striking movements in the jazz piece, lots of isolations in the ballet segments, the group timing was impeccable in the finished dance routines, and the overall mood was very evident.

The film did a great job of encompassing the polar ends of dance and everything in the middle. The main styles were represented well, and the more obscure styles were shown as equal.

As for the overall emotion, I got a very monotone feeling throughout the film. The lighting seemed grayish for the duration, giving it all a sort of dirty, grungy feeling.

The costuming was, for the most part, rather uniform and unchanging from character to character. I did, however, notice changes in clothing styles in Denise and Joy over the span of the film, with Denise's clothing growing more unique, relaxed, and exciting, and Joy's going from very eclectic to more professional.

The actors seemed to always be moving while acting. For example, Victor and Alice, at one point, were walking down the sidewalk while having a conversation, before stopping while she told him of her acceptance into complexions.

It is difficult to say how the mood changed during the conflict, as the film poorly demonstrated a discernible time of conflict, but the mood grew noticeably more nervous, tense, urgent, and serious during the various times of conflict.

The stern feeling brought about by the conflict didn't seem to lift completely until the closing performance.
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 5th, 2009, 10:01pm »
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Costuming - The way the people were costumed made you know the background that that specific character has.

Attitude - The attitude of the movie was mostly excitement, joy, and sometimes sadness.

Space - Most of the time the dancers has ma feet in between them and when they did a move in the air they have enough space in between them to be safe.

Force - The characters in the movie did not use much force most of it was flips and splits etc...

Relationships - In the dance the people used a lot of feeling in their dance and if they were singing about something that they liked they put their sole into it.

Time - The timing of the dancers was perfect. when a group song came up they blended with each other perfectly

Styles of Dance - The many styles of dance that they used made you know when the event was happy or sad.

Emotions - The movie was mostly happy.

Clothing - The clothing really showed if they were rich poor sad happy etcc...

Space While Talking - The characters really took up all the space they had they wasted nothing.

Tone of Movie - The tone of the changed when the characters got mad at each other or really anything like if theirs dreams were crushed etc...

Tone - When the dancers got their dreams back the movie was happy again
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 5th, 2009, 10:23pm »
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Personally i didn't like the movie at all!! I thought it was slow but then it picked up a little bit at the end but over all it wasn't my favorite.

Tone - I thought it started out fast then everybody got sad because some people moved and some people got kicked out of the school, then at the end everybody was happy and it ended.

Attitude - At the beginning the attitude was very nervous because they thought they wouldn't get into the school but then after everyone got in the school they kind of got happy still a little nervous and then at the end no one was nervous and everybody had there own style of dancing.

Clothing - I thought that the clothing really brought out the styles of dance that everybody had.

Styles of dance - I thought that they were very smooth but sometimes they were a little intense and rough.

Emotions - I thought that the movie was very sad at points like the time when the boy broke up with that girl and the time when that guy was about to commit suicide in the metro station.

Space - Everybody used tons of space because they had to give each other room to breakdance and stuff.

Movements - The movements in Fame when the music was soft the movements would be smooth and as the music got louder the would have sharper moves.







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« Reply #12 on: Oct 5th, 2009, 10:46pm »
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The movie was ok, dance wise. I feel that the movie did not have enough dancing and it was more of a romance movie. More like a "School of Rock" type of movie. The end of the movie was pethetic. There was no big ending number and it was mostly singing. Another point to back up my statement is that half of the movie was about trying to get that album made and published so they have a further career. Even though i like "School of Rock" type of movies, in a dance movie there needs to be... dance!

Costumes - In the ending number where the people came at in jungle costumes definatly made the dance seem more, Junglish! Ha.

Attitude - The attitudes were usualy on a low level. Mostly because the breakup. That made the movie a lot more dramatic. (Which also gave that romance efect)

Space - I agree with Skyler. The dancers were mostly taking up a lot of space to do fancy moves which does need space.

Force - There was a lot of force but then again there wasnt. Like one of the very first dances where the dancers danced in the lunch room, it was smooth with some parts and sharp with other parts.

Relationships - The singers would sing about something going on in there life and the dancers would dance in either a fast motion (if there was something good going on in there life) or dance slow looking down or sad (if something bad was going on in there life)

Time - It would usualy start with music and then the dancer(s) would come in.

Style of Dance - The style of the dances were mostly fast and smooth. But sometimes it would be slow. Like the begining of the ending number, it was slow.

Emotions - Most of everybody was excited and pumped but others were sometimes sad and such.

Clothing - The clothing set the emotion for the scene/dance/song.

Space While Talking - Everyone moved around while talking, taking up space.

Tone of the Movie - The overall tone was happy. But as the two broke up the tone of the turned sad.

Tone - The tone would change as the dancers/singers emotion did.

I did end up liking the movie in the end.



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« Reply #13 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 8:38pm »
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You guys are all being tough to please! i agree with you all, but it was entertaining and thats the point of a movie. now will it be a famous blockbuster? of course not but it was worth the time to see. ya, um costuming wasn't any thing special, the dance in it was impressive, epically because they mixed so many different kinds of dance in it including, rap, pop, and ballet. this gave a wide verity of movements such as, swift, slow, controlled, and powerful. there definitely needed to be more of a perspective from a main character than the whole movie bieing about the group of people. lets all face it, the plot sucked but we did not go to see a dramatic plot filled chick flick or any thing like that we went to watch the dancing. as far as lighting was concerned they did good. i did not see to much of it though exept in songs and dances rather than the acting sad i injoyed the movie but was expecting more...
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« Reply #14 on: Oct 8th, 2009, 09:56am »
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I thought fame was a ok movie.
The costumes were wierd like the circus costum.
The attutuid was okay because some parts the attuid was just wierd,like the part with the halloween thing in the movie.
The space was okay they just had a littl to much space for the part with the try outs for the acting.
The timing in the movie was good
The style there was not very many different styles of dances in the movie manly just moderen not to much of different styels of dances.
The movies type of emotions were mostly of anger and just crying in the end and some tims the people were sad.
Every body just gave up not really your saying of ahappy ending.
My over all review was okay out of 1 through 10 i would give them a 6/10
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